Healthcare, Healthcare, Healthcare – UFT Executive Board Minutes, 10/3/2022

Open Mic:

Approval of Minutes: approved

Special Order of Business:

Election – complaints: new set of complaints, there will be a final third set. (One set was already voted on last year).  Typically election complaints are usually investigated by the Secretary and UFT Counsel, so UFT employed a private legal firm to handle the investigation. The 2022 election committee was represented by the two caucuses that ran full slates (Unity and UFC). Election took place, with results announced in May. Unity won most of these positions.

Leading up to the complaint, various complaints were submitted. Here are 11 additional complaints from the omnibus complaint. We recommend denial:

-while the election was free and fair, we recommend new policies to make it fairer:

-written election complaint process should be created with an official person to handle.

-Small caucuses should not be given as much ad space as large ones.

– UFC alleges that UC attendees used official UFT emails to do official caucus business. This probably didn’t affect the election, but this wasn’t caucusing. We’re talking about election business – that’s different, and is legal.

-There is no evidence of whistleblower retaliation against Christina Gavin. Ms. Gavin said that a group she used a Google Group that appears to be an official UFT group even though it wasn’t. Ms. Gavin was told to cease and desist but no retaliation was done against her.

– UFC reps allege they haven’t received an official report from the UFT, but there was no violation as there was no effect on the election. A new version has also been updated that ‘official UFT group’ is now ‘appearance of an official UFT group.’ UFC had access to executive board meetings among other things. So allegation is not substantiated.

– Many complaints aren’t election complaints but of general UFT process, such as violations of Roberts rules and the length of the president’s report. The president report has varied in length significantly over the years depending on what information needed to be reported out. During the pandemic, it tended to be longer. While delegates might be frustrated, this is unrelated to the president’s report.

-It is false that non-Unity members have not been allowed. November: (Bacon), Daniel Alicea (had on agenda), January (Strivers, ), various motions to amend also noted.

True that adoption of resolutions have slowed DAs, it’s not the intention. The suggestion that Mulgrew can even identify who is in what caucus out of thousands.

UFT did not inappropriately allocate space in the UFT election committee. Order of campaign advertisements is random and flipped by season.

*started to lose notetaking stamina somewhere around here.

None of the articles in NY teacher complimented members in a way that would affect the election. Nothing there is different from previous election years.

UFT is not required to constitute the election committee in any way.

Debate:

Nick Bacon: Simply want to clarify that it’s unfair to say UFC was called on in resolutions. When I was called, I was a member of Unity. UFC did not clearly exist yet. When Daniel was called up his resolution had been put on the docket the previous school year, well before UFC existed. It had been on the docket so long that it was moot when he brought it up, hence him taking it off the agenda. All other members discussed did not bring up original resolutions. They simply called up amendments or other points of order, which they don’t need to be called on by Unity-elected officers in order to do.

The item passes without debate.

President’s report (Mulgrew): We had a negotiating meeting with members. We want all the members to wear blue on Oct. 13th, the actual first day of bargaining. Negotiating committee is driving the different actions. So do you announce events or want organic events. As a CL, I hated when the UFT told me to do something – I liked knowing the goal and working it out with my members. So we have officers working in the borough who will be point on this. We want our members going to CEC and all these other things. We want parents involved. Poll numbers went up when the governor signed the class size bill. When I was CL, J. Klein was chancellor. When he came, we all turned our backs and stood there the whole night. Union didn’t tell us to do that, we did it on our own. We do want to do this action though on contract.

The receivership list came out. We have some problems. If you’ve ever been on a school on some sort of list. There has been no plan of action for the last few years because during COVID none of that was happening. So now there are talks as to what that’s going to mean. There can be serious ramifications in receivership.

We have 365 UFT members in excess and we are still placing people.

Healthcare: we will have our inservice healthcare committee. Joe ? will be chairing it. Down in DC. What is going on in this country for healthcare is an absolute disgrace. We have the opportunity to work with the other unions to do a variety of things to solve the problem. We are fighting like no one else. But in DC, the new legislation has some improvements – we can negotiate drug prices in medicare, for instance. But so many good things were ripped out because of the insurance companies. Money doesn’t go to the people doing the work. So what is healthcare doing to salaries? It’s destroying it. So here in NYC, we’re saying we’re going to take this on. This is a national outrage, it doesn’t matter if you are public or private. At least we’re doing something – everyone else is just eating the cost. At least, we are fighting. But, while we are doing that we have to be clear – our healthcare costs have doubled, even with us pushing the costs down, which is why we’ve remained premium free. Most other countries have universal healthcare, which is why we pay more than everyone else. It’s all very complicated. Prostate exams should take place at a doctor not a hospital, because costs are much lower in medical offices. We looked at a state level and decided that if we did it as a state we would ‘destroy ourselves as a state.’ Something must be done at the national level or we’ll destroy ourselves. Medicare Advantage is only one piece of what has been going on, which is why we need an in-service committee. We go to the doctors more than any other employees of the City.

Never give your right to bargain away – like a judge did to us.

‘Medicare Advantage’ is still part of Medicare. We have the right to do this, so why not make our own? We want good quality premium free healthcare.

Class size – we had our official consultation with the chancellor. Having our first class-size reduction meeting. First students who get class size reduction are the ones who have the most challenges. But the law requires review every 10 years. First couple of years should be ok. We supplied the city with the data on poverty percentage as well as class sizes. Glad we’re finally moving on class sizes.

Questions:

Mike Schirtzer: Can we publicize contract meetings and some our demands that serve our students and parents 

Response: We have to escalate and try some things.

Ibeth Mejia: According to Article 3G1, “ The Board agrees to arrange for, and make available to each day school teacher, a choice of health and hospital insurance coverage from among designated plans and the Board agrees to pay the full cost of such coverage.” Why are we discussing limiting FREE plans when a choice of free plans is in our contract?

Response: We are championing choice.

Ibeth: Don’t we already have two not premium free plans, GHI and HIP?

Sorkin: We are looking to preserve good ‘premium free options.’

Ibeth: Presses.

Sorkin: Notes rises costs. Would love to pass costs on to members. So we need to see what else is out there. We have dictates from decades of negotiations over healthcare.

Ilona: DC37 sent out a letter to members stating bluntly that if healthcare isn’t ‘fixed’, their raises won’t keep up with inflation. In other words, if they don’t agree to lower the quality of their healthcare, one can infer that they’ll see other parts of their quality of life be reduced – income, perhaps housing, etc. In the past year or so, we’ve heard similar threats from UFT. Does the UFT leadership agree with this assessment from DC37? How will pattern bargaining affect us? And what can retirees and in-service members expect will happen to the quality or access to healthcare in the future? Will we only receive raises if we cut our benefits? Or will we fight for both.

Sorkin: Familiar with letter – speaking of cost savings not reducing healthcare. Can’t speak to UFT’s role in not negotiating until healthcare. There’s no talk of reducing benefits – just the cost.

Ronnie Almonte: Screens being reintroduced into middle schools. UFT has argued against it, so how does the UFT feel about it? Can we have some discussion in the UFT about this?

Sill: Yes good idea.

Lydia Howrilka: Clarifying question regarding Ibeth’s question. Why has the UFT allowed the change in Administrative code 12-126.

Sorkin: Because we want to preserve choice and we want to make sure the MLC has a voice.

Alex Jallot: Mulgrew did support national healthcare. So are we only going to endorse federal candidates who support universal healthcare?

Sill: we don’t usually have litmus tests . But certainly members could raise that at a DA.

Nancy Armando: Op44 – has this become a problem, is it a problem for the district? Secretaries are going crazy.

Sill: Oh yes. You can email me, Msill@uft.org This is a bureaucratic nightmare. Forming a committee.

Ed Calamia: The city received a great amount of COVID relief money. Do we have a detailed accounting of how they are using it?

Sill: No, but we’ve requested it. Where’s the money? This is the whole point of these fights we’ve been having – we need rules because we know the DOE won’t do the right thing with the money that they have.

Lydia: Sec 12 of the UFT constitution states that executive board meetings should be available to everyone. How are we publicizing?

Sill: Dates are published. Puts question back to Lydia – how are you publishing it? You’re a member of the executive board.

Reports from Districts:

October 25th – Middle school conference back in person. NYPD will do a presentation. Wheelchairs against gun violence will be there. Coatdrive, we’ve given away over 10,000 cases.

Joe: Director of Al Shanker scholarship. Online applications will be there Dec. 1st. NYC seniors should apply. It’s a direct check now in case a student is already on full scholarship.

Tom Murphy: Midterm elections are upon us. Starting to organize.

Karne A: More food pantries in schools and some seasonal stuff thanks to our efforts. Community school model is doing well.

Servia S: Oct 1st we couldn’t do our street fair so it will be this weekend. Brooklyn walk also coming up this weekend.

Mike Schirtzer: 2 events from team high schools – future in focus – exploring unionized careers on Thursday, October 20th from 10 Am – 1 PM. Uft.org/future-in-focus.

Also Gama – Oct 11th there is an event by Janella at 4:30, a high school huddle. Has a meeting with the DOE after that.

Thanksgiving coatdrive – shoutout. Rich got us coats when we had students who were homeless. I assure you.

Leo Gordon: Great things in CTE – modern youth apprenticeship, 59 schools will offer paid apprenticeships. Many other programs also being put out. Put on your calendar, Nov. 3rd, World Summit done with two organizations, including Apple, and attendees will get certified. Open to teachers and students. Everyone pays for this except UFT members and their students.

S. Ramos: East 72nd join uft for an Alzheimers walk. With questions call S. Perez.

Melody Anastasiou: missed.

Patricia: HIV has not gone away. World AIDS day is on Sep. 1st. UFT is partnering a poster contest, grades 9-12.

Amy Arundell: In Queens we’re trying to be proactive to set a tone to come back from Covid. We had a reception with Queens UFT staff and all superintendents.

Sally A: Had MOSL meeting and had 550 members. We know that high schools did not get to partake, so we’ll have another session on Thursday – email will come out today or tomorrow.

George Geist: shoutout for awesome sabbatical workshop.

Medicare Advantage

Bacon: Endorses resolution in opposition to the privatization of Medicare. (Click hyperlink to left for full text). It was said earlier by Mulgrew that UFT supports a national single payer public option. Indeed we as a union have passed resolutions to this effect. It stands to reason that Medicare, the only current public option, which such a system would be modeled after, must be preserved. Therefore, we must resist privatization of Medicare. Medicare Advantage will get cost savings through privatization that limits access to care for our retirees (and future retirees) who dedicated their careers in service to our City and students. It will add to administrative costs and add barriers to care like prior authorizations. Medicare Advantage is much like charter schools, which we as a union also resist. Charter Schools offer to do the same as public schools but ‘better’ and often ‘cheaper’ through privatization. They erode public education by doing this. Medicare Advantage does the same to Medicare. Given our own obvious analogy in education,  our own precarious situation relative to privatization, we must argue for salvaging our public Medicare. And we owe it to the workers who have retired and one day will retire.

Sworkin: Stand in opposition. States things thee says things that are false and is misguided. ‘Sometimes we need to make tough decisions.’

Ilona Nanay: I stand in favor of the resolution. A year ago my mother died of breast cancer and she was on a medicare advantage plan. It was virtually impossible for her to obtain care. I think it is one of the reasons that she passed. It is still extremely frustrating – every time I hear him talk about the program. I would love a breakdown of why the NY Health Act hurts us as members of the union. We support the NY healthcare.

Vincent Gaglione: Medicare Advantage is still Medicare. Part C of Medicare

Joe: Stands firmly against. My wife works for an insurance company that provides the product. If we were on her plan we’d pay 700 a month, which is reasonable in today’s world. We can negotiate better benefits.

Alex Jallot: Firmly in support of this resolution. Every time we play ball with these insurance companies. If we supported single payer, we could put more time and energy into better pay. The minute we give an inch, they want to take a mile. Healthcare is part of the boss’s ploy to keep us down. We have to have a single payer healthcare system or otherwise this will be the same story every years. We have to say no sometimes and let them know that we aren’t accepting any more inches being taken from us. For the sake of our retirees and workers everywhere we should accept.

Ibeth Mejia: Responds to Vincent. The private companies in Part C are for profit. We need Medicare for all. No free choice – MAP +, if they wanted to keep regular Medicare, they would have to pay over 400 a month.

*Question called. (Ed Calamia is only person standing).

Only the 7 vote and Mike Schirtzer in favor of the resolution. Unity votes down resolution.

Looking Back almost 20 years. How to Organize and Mobilize for a Contract Fight

Attending my second in-person UFT Executive Board on Monday, September 20 made me
realize how much I miss being a member of that body and how much things haven’t changed.
When the elected high school Exec. Bd. members presented their resolution (see the New
Action report on the Exec Bd. That night), it was predictable Unity would line-up to attack the
resolution. Two things came to mind. As one Unity Caucus speaker after another lined up at the
microphones to speak against you could tell how scripted the attack was. Many speakers stated
that the UFT Negotiating Committee of 500 should constitute and be the controlling factor in
forming a UFT Action Committee. This was supposed to make sense! Really a committee of
500? But the real point is two-fold. In 2004 when Randi Weingarten was UFT President she
agreed to form a bi-partisan committee at the recommendation of New Action/UFT.
Parenthetically she formed other bipartisan committees -the UFT Organizing Committee and
the Social and Economic Justice Committee. One other committee she said she could not get
through her own Unity Caucus was one on Union Democracy.


Back to the point. In November 2004, she formed an Action Committee when there were only
30-35 UFT members on the then Negotiating Committee – not 500. Certainly a committee of 35
made more sense, was more manageable, and probably more effective. That Committee co-
chaired by Elizabeth Languilli and Michael Mendel(officers of the UFT) put forward plans to
mobilize and organize the entire UFT membership. New Action should and I hope will publicize
the suggestions that came out of that bi-partisan committee. But Unity today doesn’t seem to
have a collective memory of just how effective the proposal was. But equally important, the
UFT Action Committee didn’t just convene to organize the fight for a contract. The scope of the
committees work included: plans against budget cuts, a campaign against abusive
administrators, plans to fight the closing of 47 schools, plans to mobilize the membership for
smaller class sizes, to name few.


Sometimes it’s a good thing to remember history.

-Michael Shulman, Co-chair of New Action and former UFT Vice President of Academic High Schools.

Substitute Rights, Healthcare, Buses, 6th Classes, and a No to Action Committee – UFT Executive Board, 9/19/2022

Open Mic: Crystal Mendez Covington:

Occupational therapist who has a child who is supposed to receive bussing. Matron has been great. Son has not been picked up. The offer is he is only being picked up at very odd hours – hours after school day begins. Having to take time off to bring him to school. What can be done.

S. Cohen: Aviation high school won an arbitration that non-‘shortage’ area classes should be paid the full rate, not just a coverage rate. But many teachers are afraid to file their own grievances to get that pay, not to mention the many teachers across the city. What about retirees – this affects their pension? We’re supposed to have 6 years to file. Can the union file a class-action grievance? What will Michael Mulgrew do?

Joseph Diodato: Was a substitute teacher and now am full-time. 2 issues: per diem members, and new teacher experience. Definitely a value to the new teacher experience, but our unionists deserve fair pay. Article 8-G specifies mandatory contractual obligations to new teacher week, but compensation is only daily $51.70 – about 55% of the minimum wage. How can this practice continue? Our contract should not trump state labor laws.

Substitute teachers aren’t being paid enough. We have to do better on advocating for teachers and making sure they get their relevant pay (e.g. O, Q, or Z-status). Long term teachers deserve to be paid for their labors.

 Routine Items

President’s Report:

Mulgrew: Moving to our first negotiating committee. Gonna be a lot of work to do, especially in terms of mobilization. Not going to be an easy negotiation. Focusing on a lot of things that have nothing to do with the bread of butter what makes the city work. Almost all unions are now out of a contract. In 2 weeks when we come in, we’ll strategize. Everyone is on notice. MLC does not feel good about it.

MOSL: Calendar is on Oct. 7 and closes on Oct. 22nd. Want a virtual quick training. Sep 29th at 4:30. Different ways to choose. Might have to wait if we don’t come to a decision.  CLs have to be on this. Schools made choices that were not in their best interest.

FSF is not equitable, despite what many say. Staffing positions should have nothing to do with a school’s budget. Often sped is cited as why, but if you look you’ll probably see an escalation of SPED noncompliance, so that can’t be right. Chancellor says he thinks the formula is wrong, but people on the committee in DC who originally designed this.

Question Period:

Mike Schirtzer: Asks if Crystal’s issue can be fixed.

Mulgrew: Busing has been smoother the last couple of years. There are consequences to how they do this.

Name missed: Do we think members will have time to make a decision?

Mulgrew: Working on it…

Alex Jallot: Fair student funding (FSF)? Who do we push to fix this and how?

Mulgrew: Not a subject of collective bargaining. So it’s mayoral control. Still working on it in committees and such.

Nick Bacon: Last year, a bill was signed which allowed districts to waive APPR. NYC didn’t bite. You (Mulgrew) signed that you agreed we shouldn’t have it. There were several problems with APPR last year – teachers/students were acclimating to the regular classroom while being afraid to socialize (making it hard to score well on things like 3B), and growth based MOSL scores were calculated on the basis of tests taken years apart. TIPs often set teachers up to be 3030a’d, because they give admin the right to micromanage teachers, and therefore to discipline teachers if they fall short of expectations that often exceed what is asked in the contract. Since UFT leadership opted not to make this a big fight, are we at least doing anything to protect teachers who might be 3021bd or 3020ad as a result of advance ratings that we didn’t have to have at all?

Mulgrew: Set up a system, can get information from Mary.

Approval of the Minutes

Lydia: why was there nothing on the agenda?

Leroy: Says we already voted. For the other complaints if you disagree, we’re saying go to AFT.

All minutes approved.

Staff Director’s Report

Many meetings, contract committee coming up. DA Oct 12th

Question Period

First question missed.

Mike Schirtzer: The disasters in Puerto Rico and elsewhere, anything on what the UFT can do? Keep us abreast.

LeRoy: AFT is keeping up with this. Puerto Rico is near and dear to us. We’re in full support in addition to our own outreach to our own folks.

Karen Alfred: Some communication from folks before the power went out in PR. Sending some help RE disaster relief. Tom Murphy has connected us.

Name Missed: We have one of the messed up MOSL. We’re all getting different numbers of observations. What is the rationale behind why people are getting different things?

Mary Jo Genese: Yes, put in a complaint, but there are over 100 complaints. We’ll look. Email me.

Ilona Nanay: Did subs get the opportunity to apply to be on the negotiating committee?

Leroy: Yes.

Llona Nanay: New teacher week – how did we agree to that rate (below minimum wage)?

Mike Sill: Training rate has been in the contract rate for many years, since at least 2008. Definitely before onboarding training. We can look at that rate in the next round of bargaining, e.g. demand per session. When that got added to the contract, we didn’t know what it was gonna look like. We got a better sense in 2018 when it first became part of the contract, so it’s worth revisiting.

Ilona Nanay: Last week’s question – is the UFT going to work on getting their reinstatement put out in writing, or get them transportation to sites?

Mike Sill: First I’m hearing of the track issue, but we can look at that. We sat down with those members for about 45 minutes. Next day we met with the entire office at DCEE. Thursday we met with that office and the DOE. In the meantime, we got the new postings. We don’t agree with their plan, but don’t have contractual leverage. Doesn’t mean we can’t try in other ways. But again, if the positions are the same or similar, that’s an excessing condition. No one is going to end up in excess, people will end up in their DCEE positions – if the DOE gets its way – plus other opportunities. But we need to know what those other opportunities are. Not seeing anyone ending up in the ATR pool.

Ibeth Mejia: UFT had a big precedent setting grievance at Aviation (see Cohen, open mic). Thanks David Campbell and team for advocacy. Thanks Janella Hinds for testifying. How can teachers who did not yet get paid get that pay? Memo on shortage pay hasn’t been put out – when?

David Campbell: Meeting at Aviation tomorrow to discuss in detail the implications at school. This arbitration was from one grievant – filed back in 2018 – then others filed (thanks Ibeth). We can only get backpay for people who filed. We won’t be able to get it for people who did this in the past and didn’t file. DOE is not quick to pay people and may try to contest other grievances, but to put pressure on them – we put 18 grievants on there for the October Arbitration. Don’t anticipate another hearing, because the issue is settled. The basis of the ruling that there are particular rates in our contract: class coverage (clearly defined – covering for one teacher). Teaching a full class is much different from the work involved in covering a class. So you need to get paid a full shortage rate, not a coverage rate. Not sure how widespread the issue is, but now the issue is settled – so let us know if it ever comes again. Should be able to pro-rate 6th period pay in Prose schools with different contractual.

Mike Sill: will follow up on the memo.

Ed Calamia: Given all the federal money we have for education and the need for parents to get to work, is there any money for UFT members to work those programs – i.e. latchkey programs?

What exactly does the UFT disagree with in terms of the administrative code 12-126.

LeRoy: no info on latchkey.

G. Sorkin: When looking at the administrative code, we want protections. Recently, there was a Medicare Advantage ruling, and a judge—in my opinion—exceeded his authority. So we want to go around that by changing the administrative code. We disagree that the City only has to have one health plan – we believe in ‘choice.’

Lydia: How has UFT been involved in the budget cuts? How can we get our members activated to fight for fair funding?

LeRoy: We’ve been involved all summer. There’s great stuff on Infohub. As soon as some meetings are done, we’ll figure out how to get out and get our voice heard.

Ronnie Almonte: What capacity do we have to organize new members? We have two labor systems – people on the DOE line and the Bard line at my school (Bard Early HS). Bard doesn’t have tenure, pension – they’re at will. There’s other schools with similar setups. We have a good history of organizing the unorganized. What now?

Name Missed: Dist. 30 new member meet and greet, so share my event. We are including high schools this year, used to just do middle and elementary schools.

Janella H.: Agreement Ronnie described is different than many agreements around the city. Agreements with colleges – professors teaching alongside HS educators. Those members are PSC-CUNY. That classification means they’re unionized – just not UFT. Work to be done for sure.

Alex Jallot: Smaller class sizes – committee formed last year. How do we make sure everyone honors the class sizes agreement?

LeRoy: The pressure is on. Rallies are great, but the real pressure is the law. Thanks everyone involved in the class size fight. We’ll be going after them if they don’t follow the law. Districts that are black and brown are supposed to get that money first – and we’ll be looking there.

B.  Standing Committees

1. Report from Districts

Tom Murphy: been a tough week for retirees. We’ve lost several people. Thanks Staten Island for grief counseling, e.g. S. Bailey. Also, Florence Fidel, Mona Davidson (created Florida office). Town hall meeting tomorrow (M. Mulgrew to give). Campaign 22, busing to places like PA, really important with senate races. Inflation reduction act, passed in August, great for drug prices for retirees.

1 report missed.

Pat: annual bocce tournament, raised money for disaster relief fund. Thanks SI office.

Nancy Armando: controversial mural being redone, now great.

Adam Shapiro: Working in D21 and happy to share in one week’s time we’ve raised $1 million.

Servia S.: In honor of Hispanic heritage month, D. 4 having special dancing events in East Harlem, flyers should be up on the UFT website. Sep. 30. Only for UFT events.

Mike Sill: Furious about how the medical accommodations are being handled, teachers aren’t hearing back, on HR Connect for hours and hours. DOE is supposed to find suitable central work for teachers with accommodations. Folks can rest easier.

Rashad Brown: report missed.

1 Report missed.

Lamar Hughes: District 25. Shows UFT puppet created by Andy at 244.

Janella H.: Caring Kind work – Alzheimer’s and Dementia.

2. Legislative Report

C.  Special Order of Business

Teacher Center Courses:

Mary: 146 sites, another 30 coming online shortly. Workshops coming up – CTLE, LCTLE. Google going to do a workshop on Next Steps. Some courses can also help with differentials. Mandated courses now happening through teacher center – e.g. Autism. A lot getting sold out, so we’re going to offer more. Also, when teacher center sites have after school hours, can go by – there’s a printer, laminator, etc. We’ll send out a list of where those sites are.

Resolution to Organize and Mobilize for a Contract Fight:

Nick Bacon: endorses

Resolution to Organize and Mobilize for a Contract Fight

Whereas, the UFT contracts expired on September 13, 2022; and

Whereas, there have been no negotiations for a successor agreement;

Whereas, the UFT has a long history of involving our rank and file membership in mobilization to put pressure on the city to come to agreements.

Whereas, in the past President Randi Weingarten worked with a bipartisan executive board to establish just such a rank & file committee (the UFT Action Committee).

Resolved, that the Executive Board will form a UFT Action Committee made up primarily of school based Executive Board members of all divisions to plan a series of escalating actions to build public support and force the city-DOE to come to a fair agreement on a new UFT contract.

Amy Arundel: Against. Speaks against, not because I’m against it, but because it doesn’t have one. Stands against because not necessary, not in theory.

Mike Sill: Against. What are the differences between an executive committee – this committee is smaller.

Rashad Brown: Opposition, excludes people, not large.

Carl Cambria: Against. We did it then, why not now? 2004 we did it, because the structure has changed.

Mike Schirtzer (favor): Here on exec board would be a good place to get some action started. We got some good work done for strike readiness. Exec-based committee could do lots of great work in addition to what

Alex Jallot:  For. Doesn’t have to be an either or thing. Would be good to have an action committee. Good for our students and schools.

Ilona Nanay: For. Not either or. This is both and. Also contract committee has been a slow start and meetings have been haphazard. So a more consistent and regular meeting here could help flush out what can’t be discussed.

Adam Shaprio: opposes. Let’s give the negotiating committee. Indirectly undercuts that.

Question called.

Bacon notes that it has been uneven in this debate (for and against). Would be unfair to call the question given how many more have gotten to speak for than against.

LeRoy lets one more ‘for’ person speak.

Ed Calamia: Pretty decent debate, but one thing that has not been mentioned – the Action Committee would not be redundant with the negotiating committee. It has carried out a number of other mobilizations (e.g. on abusive administration). It can keep the base energized between major events and would make a huge difference. This action committee is more than ‘extra’ on the negotiating committee. It’s an independent committee with a lot of history.

Melody A. Asks if that was the intention? Would vote for this reso if it was more than just contract.

Nick: That was the intention – to form an Action Committee for and beyond the contract. Could amend the language if people would like, but that was always the intention.

LeRoy: out of order.

Question called:

UFC and Mike Schirtzer vote in favor. The rest vote against or abstain.

Meeting closes.

Future Meetings:

AdCom:   Sept. 30; Oct. 7, 14, 21

Exec. Bd.: Oct. 3, 24

DA:          Oct. 12


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